norquist said a number of times in defense of his position, look, what's wrong with saying to a politician, when you want my vote and you make a promise, you should keep that promise. what's wrong with saying that to either side about any topic? >> so, i think that there's nothing wrong with that. this is about making political commitments, something politicians have to and should do. my own preference is not written pledges, but in fact, people who say this is what i believe and follow through on it. i think one thing it did do is focus its attention, which is still under discuss. we have an enormous spending problem, it's about entitlement problem. what the president was forced some recognition that the threshold decision is to spend the money. >> ethan, your reaction to this whole idea that norquist keeps saying, it's about taxes for him, but also about politicians being honest. you should mean what you say and pursue it in that fashion. what do you think? >> sure, i have nothing against pledges politics make to voters. i have a problem when they're pledging bad policy. if you look at t